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Minooka Meatball | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:07 pm | ||
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Jaw Breaker | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:16 pm | ||
Joined: Thu Sep 30, 2010 3:40 pm Posts: 16036 pizza_Place: Boni Vino | They actually finished with a 28-42-12, or 28-54 record. I can't stand when people ignore the OTL. If you're going to do that, you also have to ignore the OTW, in which case they were 16-42...which gives a truer picture of their sh*ttiness. _________________ To IkeSouth, bigfan wrote: Are you stoned or pissed off, or both, when you create these postings? | ||
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denisdman | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:20 pm | ||
Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:55 pm Posts: 32352 Location: Wrigley pizza_Place: Warren Buffet of co*ck | Jaw Breaker wrote: They actually finished with a 28-42-12, or 28-54 record. I can't stand when people ignore the OTL. If you're going to do that, you also have to ignore the OTW, in which case they were 16-42...which gives a truer picture of their sh*ttiness. Yup. Foley used to always talk about teams being above .500 when they had more losses than wins. _________________ | ||
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RFDC | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:40 pm | ||
Joined: Sun May 11, 2008 4:11 pm Posts: 55964 | So whats the thought here? Solid hire? _________________ Frank Coztansa wrote: I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogsh*t. | ||
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SuperNintendoHjalmarsson | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:55 pm | ||
Joined: Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:05 am Posts: 2925 Location: DuPage pizza_Place: Rosati's | We should wait for Fels to let us know. _________________ | ||
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Caller Bob | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:06 pm | ||
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SuperNintendoHjalmarsson | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:18 pm | ||
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Curious Hair | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 1:28 pm | ||
Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:29 pm Posts: 54463 Location: Pearl Harbor, Waukesha, and other things that make no sense pizza_Place: Lou Malnati's | Jaw Breaker wrote: They actually finished with a 28-42-12, or 28-54 record. I can't stand when people ignore the OTL. If you're going to do that, you also have to ignore the OTW, in which case they were 16-42...which gives a truer picture of their sh*ttiness. I always thought the best thing to do would be 1.5 points for a shootout win and .5 for a shootout loss. This way, the points standings are effectively an average of straight W-L and the old W-L-T. The idea that two overtime losses -- not even shootout losses but overtime losses -- are equal to one win is nuts. _________________ Molly Lambert wrote: The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both. | ||
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The Division | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:17 pm | ||
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:25 am Posts: 1053 Location: Houston, Texas pizza_Place: Sam’s - Oglesby, IL | RFDC wrote: So whats the thought here? Solid hire? Sounds like it. Andrew Shaw had a lot of good things to say about him from his time in Montreal. | ||
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DAC | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:32 pm | ||
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:28 pm Posts: 3886 Location: Tinley Park pizza_Place: zzzzzz | The Division wrote: RFDC wrote: So whats the thought here? Solid hire? Sounds like it. Andrew Shaw had a lot of good things to say about him from his time in Montreal. But is it even in the Hawks best interest if he does a good job? If the Hawks don't trade Debrincat, they'll go into the season with enough talent to be a middling, non-playoff team if they play hard and have a few players surprise. They'll be bad but not bad enough to have a realistic shot at a top 3 pick. There are 2 franchise players at the top of next year's draft and a 3rd that is not far behind. While the draft overall is said to be excellent and deep, the Hawks need to be in the mix for Bedard and that Russian wizard. _________________ | ||
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The Division | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:33 pm | ||
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:25 am Posts: 1053 Location: Houston, Texas pizza_Place: Sam’s - Oglesby, IL | DAC wrote: The Division wrote: RFDC wrote: So whats the thought here? Solid hire? Sounds like it. Andrew Shaw had a lot of good things to say about him from his time in Montreal. But is it even in the Hawks best interest if he does a good job? If the Hawks don't trade Debrincat, they'll go into the season with enough talent to be a middling, non-playoff team if they play hard and have a few players surprise. They'll be bad but not bad enough to have a realistic shot at a top 3 pick. There are 2 franchise players at the top of next year's draft and a 3rd that is not far behind. While the draft overall is said to be excellent and deep, the Hawks need to be in the mix for Bedard and that Russian wizard. I'd say it depends on who's in goal and who's playing D as to whether or not they have a real shot at a top 3 pick. But to answer your question, no, it is not in their best interest if they have a "good enough" season. | ||
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DAC | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:34 pm | ||
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:28 pm Posts: 3886 Location: Tinley Park pizza_Place: zzzzzz | The Division wrote: I'd say it depends on who's in goal and who's playing D as to whether or not they have a real shot at a top 3 pick. But to answer your question, no, it is not in their best interest if they have a "good enough" season. This is why I think the Hawks should take the cap dump and the big sweetner in Mrazek from Toronto. Go into the season with Mrazek and Lankinen/Delia. I'd love for them to trade Debrincat if they can get some blue chip prospects and then Kane and Toews would probably want to get traded at the deadline. And I do feel a little vindicated with how Bowen Byram played in these playoffs. I always thought the Hawks should have drafted him instead of Dach. Makar got all the praise, and rightfully so, but Byram was DOMINANT at 5 on 5 against Tampa. With Makar and Byram anchoring the top 2 pairings, Colorado might even be better next year. _________________ | ||
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Spaulding | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:53 pm |
Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:46 pm Posts: 33158 pizza_Place: Gioacchino's | I don’t think we’re going to see a good enough season for a while. |
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NWsider4-3-3 | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:38 pm |
Joined: Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:41 am Posts: 2848 pizza_Place: Hoagie's Pub | bernstein and holmes played this morning's eddie o interview from mully and haugh. 3 minutes of interview and then bernstein said 'awesome' - end of hockey talk. something tells me they don't really want to talk hockey. olcyzk didn't tell me much about him. i remember him as a player, not much else. |
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Curious Hair | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:33 am | ||
Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:29 pm Posts: 54463 Location: Pearl Harbor, Waukesha, and other things that make no sense pizza_Place: Lou Malnati's | Richardson was a guy who was around a long time back when the league could accommodate lots of guys being around a long time. That's about all I remember. _________________ Molly Lambert wrote: The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both. | ||
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BigW72 | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:27 pm | ||
Joined: Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:35 pm Posts: 10618 Location: Lindenhurst pizza_Place: 1. Aurelio's 2. Pizano's | Spaulding wrote: I don’t think we’re going to see a good enough season for a while. Seth Jones with a 9.5 million cap hit through the 2029-30 season. Man that hurts. Theoretically, if they don't do anything stupid they can live with Seth Jones being the only stupid contract. Unfortunately, I don't trust them not to do anything stupid. _________________ This Ends in Antioch wrote: brick (/brik/) verb | ||
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Spaulding | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:12 pm |
Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:46 pm Posts: 33158 pizza_Place: Gioacchino's | We don't really have a goalie or defense either so ya know...that's an issue. I really enjoyed the playoffs this year but it really highlighted how bad we are. Moral and turnover is another thing. I don't know how much it will really effect the team but as a consumer I felt detached in a way. |
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DAC | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:16 pm | ||
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:28 pm Posts: 3886 Location: Tinley Park pizza_Place: zzzzzz | BigW72 wrote: Theoretically, if they don't do anything stupid they can live with Seth Jones being the only stupid contract. Unfortunately, I don't trust them not to do anything stupid. _________________ | ||
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The Division | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:51 pm | ||
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:25 am Posts: 1053 Location: Houston, Texas pizza_Place: Sam’s - Oglesby, IL | DAC wrote: The Division wrote: I'd say it depends on who's in goal and who's playing D as to whether or not they have a real shot at a top 3 pick. But to answer your question, no, it is not in their best interest if they have a "good enough" season. This is why I think the Hawks should take the cap dump and the big sweetner in Mrazek from Toronto. Go into the season with Mrazek and Lankinen/Delia. I'd love for them to trade Debrincat if they can get some blue chip prospects and then Kane and Toews would probably want to get traded at the deadline. And I do feel a little vindicated with how Bowen Byram played in these playoffs. I always thought the Hawks should have drafted him instead of Dach. Makar got all the praise, and rightfully so, but Byram was DOMINANT at 5 on 5 against Tampa. With Makar and Byram anchoring the top 2 pairings, Colorado might even be better next year. I think they may take on some crap contracts that are expiring in 1 or 2 years to flip at the trade deadline. They have plenty of cap space. Regarding Byram: Was reading where Davidson said there wasn't consensus on picks and that some people were ignored, especially tied to that draft. Not sure Byram was their guy but it sounds like not everyone was down with the Dach choice. | ||
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The Division | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:54 pm | ||
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:25 am Posts: 1053 Location: Houston, Texas pizza_Place: Sam’s - Oglesby, IL | DAC wrote: BigW72 wrote: Theoretically, if they don't do anything stupid they can live with Seth Jones being the only stupid contract. Unfortunately, I don't trust them not to do anything stupid. Well, if they ate some of that contract (I know, a lot to eat and for a long time) and there was a team that needs a RDH (apparently, they are in short supply? I really had no idea on this), assuming he'd waive, a trade could get done. Or, if a team needed a RHD and to get to the cap floor... Not impossible to trade him but very, very unlikely. | ||
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DAC | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:38 am | ||
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:28 pm Posts: 3886 Location: Tinley Park pizza_Place: zzzzzz | The Division wrote: Regarding Byram: Was reading where Davidson said there wasn't consensus on picks and that some people were ignored, especially tied to that draft. Not sure Byram was their guy but it sounds like not everyone was down with the Dach choice. I paid a lot of attention to the top 10 of that draft that year because I had several high picks on my fantasy team and because I was following the Hawks much more closely at the time. Hughes and Kakko were the obvious 1-2 picks but then it was a group of players in the next tier. Turcotte and Byram were most often the next players ranked by the experts and then you had Dach, Cozens, Podkolvin, and Zegras. Seider was a surprise at 6 and that has turned out to be a brilliant pick by Yzerman. I remember that I wanted Byram just because at the time it would have solidified the Hawks D core with Byram, Boqvist, Murphy, and a bunch of B-level prospects. I liked Turcotte over Dach and that might turn out to be a wash because both players look to be disappointments. I LOVED Zegras in that draft. I thought he was going to be the best value at his draft slot and he has turned out to be. Got him #10 in my main fantasy team and that was the easiest pick I've ever made. _________________ | ||
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BigW72 | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:45 am | ||
Joined: Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:35 pm Posts: 10618 Location: Lindenhurst pizza_Place: 1. Aurelio's 2. Pizano's | DAC wrote: BigW72 wrote: Theoretically, if they don't do anything stupid they can live with Seth Jones being the only stupid contract. Unfortunately, I don't trust them not to do anything stupid. It's almost as if Bowman knew he was going to take the hit for the abuse scandal and said, "f*ck all y'all!" _________________ This Ends in Antioch wrote: brick (/brik/) verb | ||
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The Division | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:50 pm | ||
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:25 am Posts: 1053 Location: Houston, Texas pizza_Place: Sam’s - Oglesby, IL | DAC wrote: The Division wrote: Regarding Byram: Was reading where Davidson said there wasn't consensus on picks and that some people were ignored, especially tied to that draft. Not sure Byram was their guy but it sounds like not everyone was down with the Dach choice. I paid a lot of attention to the top 10 of that draft that year because I had several high picks on my fantasy team and because I was following the Hawks much more closely at the time. Hughes and Kakko were the obvious 1-2 picks but then it was a group of players in the next tier. Turcotte and Byram were most often the next players ranked by the experts and then you had Dach, Cozens, Podkolvin, and Zegras. Seider was a surprise at 6 and that has turned out to be a brilliant pick by Yzerman. I remember that I wanted Byram just because at the time it would have solidified the Hawks D core with Byram, Boqvist, Murphy, and a bunch of B-level prospects. I liked Turcotte over Dach and that might turn out to be a wash because both players look to be disappointments. I LOVED Zegras in that draft. I thought he was going to be the best value at his draft slot and he has turned out to be. Got him #10 in my main fantasy team and that was the easiest pick I've ever made. Do you still pay attention to the draft? | ||
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chaspoppcap | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:24 pm | ||
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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:25 pm | ||
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:46 pm Posts: 9993 pizza_Place: Q's Hillside | DeBrincat gone to Ottawa for #7, #39, and a 2024 3rd round pick. _________________ | ||
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Cashman | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:26 pm | ||
Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:55 am Posts: 6482 pizza_Place: Giordano's | Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote: DeBrincat gone to Ottawa for #7, #39, and a 2024 3rd round pick. What a sh*tty trade package... 40 goal scorer for a 1st and 2nd and future 3rd... | ||
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OscarTangoEcho | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:32 pm | ||
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RFDC | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:34 pm | ||
Joined: Sun May 11, 2008 4:11 pm Posts: 55964 | Sounded earlier that they were talking of trading Dach. I wonder if they do that or was it one or the other? _________________ Frank Coztansa wrote: I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogsh*t. | ||
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Cashman | Post subject: Re: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:37 pm | ||
Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:55 am Posts: 6482 pizza_Place: Giordano's | He had to of panicked. This is f*cking terrible. You are telling me the Devils would not of given up #2? | ||
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